Wow. It's typical of me to me most interested in early history and I stopped listening about a third of the way through this incredibly long and detailed book. I've been an apple user for decades, so it felt like it filled in the details on a huge factor in my life. That guy was a serious wizard. It helps with my whole understanding of the world to find out how wide open the possibilities were, back when these geeks were first connecting computing power to user interface, in a suburban bubble where lots of the dads had tech workshops in their garages. I so wish that not causing massive environmental destruction had been one of their design requirements. I did love the bit about the French first lady pitching shit at him about his abuse of workers.