@dcm@social.sunet.se @uh @dcm@bookwyrm.social @MolemanPeter @NicoleCRust 3/ and what does it mean for a constraint to be multiply realisable exactly?

@UlrikeHahn @uh @dcm@bookwyrm.social @MolemanPeter @NicoleCRust right, I don't get it either. If things like gravity count as context-independent constraints, in what sense would it be multiply realisable?
I also don't get the implied (?) relation between multiple realisability and vagueness. Isn't the point of *all* constraints that they constrain trajectories in state space, but don't determine only one such trajectory?
I think this is a case in which the book's terminological obscurity hinders understanding.

@dcm@social.sunet.se @uh @dcm@bookwyrm.social @MolemanPeter @NicoleCRust yes, to the vagueness point too.

Another thing I wondered about was the dichotomy between deviation from randomness (context independent constraints) and creating dependence (context dependent constraints).

It sounded in multiple places like that notion of dependence was probabilistic dependence, but in that case I wondered why context independent constraints wouldn’t generate probabilistic dependence as well?

@dcm@social.sunet.se @uh @dcm@bookwyrm.social @MolemanPeter @NicoleCRust it might be an idea to make a table of the various examples and put them in the right columns to help better grasp the distinction between the two.

Relatedly, I’m also not yet entirely sure why the distinction is really needed, and why talk of “constraints” (of which there will be many types) isn’t simply enough.

@UlrikeHahn @uh @dcm@bookwyrm.social @MolemanPeter @NicoleCRust Hopefully the next chapter will make this clearer, for now I also don't get what that distinction is supposed to give us. Maybe it's just the trivial idea that some constraints are always there, and some may be there only in some contexts? Say, an antelope by itself is constrained by gravity, biology, etc, but in a population it becomes part of a predator-prey dynamic.

@dcm@social.sunet.se @UlrikeHahn @uh @dcm@bookwyrm.social @NicoleCRust To make it more complicated there will be constraints of constraints!

@MolemanPeter @dcm@social.sunet.se @uh @dcm@bookwyrm.social @NicoleCRust yes, they’ve just made an entrance and puzzled me already..glad to hear that might become clearer later…

@UlrikeHahn @dcm@social.sunet.se @uh @dcm@bookwyrm.social @NicoleCRust I am pretty sure that we must have an overview discussion at the end about the whole book. For me that will be most difficult and most important. Not meaning that points raised already are less important.