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Gregory Bateson: Steps to an Ecology of Mind (2000) 4 stars

Steps to an Ecology of Mind is a collection of Gregory Bateson's short works over …

I once heard a Zen master state categorically: “To become accustomed to anything is a terrible thing.”

But any freedom from the bondage of habit must also denote a profound redefinition of the self. If I stop at the level of Learning II, “I” am the aggregate of those characteristics which I call my “character.” “I” am my habits of acting in context and shaping and perceiving the contexts in which I act. Selfhood is a product or aggregate of Learning II. To the degree that a man achieves Learning III, and learns to perceive and act in terms of the contexts of contexts, his “self” will take on a sort of irrelevance. The concept of “self” will no longer function as a nodal argument in the punctuation of experience.

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Crash course:

Learning 0 - responding to a specific context in a way that is reliable/fixed.

Learning 1 - having the ability to vary your responses to repeated exposures to a context.

Learning 2 - The ability to perceive contexts, and transfer learning across contexts.

Learning 3 - (I guess) the awareness of contexts in a way that allows you to step outside of and critically evaluate them.

It's all pretty confusing and that's probably at least a little wrong. Interesting notion though.

Carlo Rovelli: The Order of Time (2018, Riverhead Books) 4 stars

Why do we remember the past and not the future? What does it mean for …

What works instead is thinking about the world as a network of events. Simple events, and more complex events that can be disassembled into combinations of simpler ones. A few examples: A war is not a thing, it’s a sequence of events. A storm is not a thing, it’s a collection of occurrences. A cloud above a mountain is not a thing, it is the condensation of humidity in the air that the wind blows over the mountain. A wave is not a thing, it is a movement of water, and the water that forms it is always different. A family is not a thing, it is a collection of relations, occurrences, feelings. And a human being? Of course it’s not a thing; like the cloud above the mountain, it’s a complex process, where food, information, light, words, and so on enter and exit. . . . A knot of knots in a network of social relations, in a network of chemical processes, in a network of emotions exchanged with its own kind.

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If you do not believe/ascribe to this way of looking at the world DNI (i'm jus kitten)

Gregory Bateson: Steps to an Ecology of Mind (2000) 4 stars

Steps to an Ecology of Mind is a collection of Gregory Bateson's short works over …

one interesting thing to me about Bateson is he seems to have a pretty positive view of Lamarck. Lamarck is a precursor to Darwin and he believed that evolutionary change occurred by way of organisms changing in their lives and passing those changes to their offspring.

One hypothetical example of this involves Giraffes. The idea is that Giraffes reaching up for leaves in trees stretch their necks and that process leads to offspring with progressively longer necks. And, voila, long necky boyos!

Of course in that example, and a lot of examples, it's wrong, but he isn't completely wrong. Epigenetics is a real thing and, if you were to get even higher/more abstract, organisms construct the environments that their offspring inherit.

I don't know how people tend to think of Lamarck nowadays, most people probably just don't, but it's still so interesting to see him thought about so positively for …

James Lovelock: Gaia : a New Look at Life on Earth (2012, Oxford University Press) No rating

I like the way the argument is framed and the descriptions of the collection of macroscopic processes that operate in order for the earth to facilitate life. That being said, I don't buy the notion that the earth is a superorganism that has anything in line with the idea of intention. I just don't know exactly what that'd mean or how it operates. Also it seems like Gaia is a superorganism whose intention/role is regulating the earth(/itself) to maintain the conditions for carbon-based life.

It seems like a weird basis for calling something alive, especially considering the motivations of other living systems are their own survival, the flourishing of offspring, the acquisition and consumption of resources. That seems very different motivationally than just "keep good for carbon-based life."

I still really like the book though, and I think that the outlook of a person who believed in the Gaia Hypothesis …

Gregory Bateson: Steps to an Ecology of Mind (2000) 4 stars

Steps to an Ecology of Mind is a collection of Gregory Bateson's short works over …

I am of two minds about Steps. To begin with, I think Bateson's a very interesting thinker and it's always interesting to read perspectives of social and biological phenomena that are deeply steeped in information theory. There are also a few specific quotes from it that really appeal to me and get at aspects of my perspective or how I would like to think about the world.

That being said, Steps is also pretty clunky and feels very redundant. It's a collection of other, shorter works like essays, conference papers, etc. That's not a bad thing, in a lot of ways that format is incredibly accessible and less tiring, but the problem I'm having is that a lot of his works are about the same topic and it feels like there was very little/no discrimination in terms of choosing them. I am on the 3 of 5 essays explicitly titled …

Gregory Bateson: Steps to an Ecology of Mind (2000) 4 stars

Steps to an Ecology of Mind is a collection of Gregory Bateson's short works over …

What is a person? What do I mean when I say “I?” Perhaps what each of us means by the “self” is in fact an aggregate of habits of perception and adaptive action plus, from moment to moment, our “immanent states of action.” If somebody attacks the habits and immanent states which characterize me at the given moment of dealing with that somebody—that is, if they attack the very habits and immanent states which have been called into being as part of my relationship to them at that moment—they are negating me. If I care deeply about that other person, the negation of me will be still more painful.

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