Yarny reviewed A Clash of Kings (Martin, George R. R. Song of Ice and Fire, Bk. 2.) by George R. R. Martin (Song of Ice and Fire (2))
None
3 stars
had some slow parts but overall it was alright
Hardcover, 608 pages
Published Aug. 6, 1998 by Voyager.
the second book in the song of ice and fire a series started with the game of thrones converted recently into a hbo tv series
had some slow parts but overall it was alright
Este libro me da una sensación de "intermedio" parecida a la que me da "Las Dos Torres", de J.R.R. Tolkien. No me extraña porque, si no me equivoco, Canción de Hielo y Fuego iba a ser una trilogía, por lo que esta entrega se siente un poco así, en mi opinión.
También es verdad que no es la primera vez que lo leo, creo que para quienes lo lean por primera vez, no tiene por qué ser así. Para mí no lo fue cuando lo leí por primera vez, pero ahora sí. No quiero decir que esto tenga nada de malo, pero a veces se siente más "lento" o que la historia está en "fase de construcción" y, de nuevo, no creo que esto sea algo malo, pero hay personas a las que esto podría hacérseles algo pesado, quizá. De todas formas, si te gustó "Juego de Tronos", este también …
Este libro me da una sensación de "intermedio" parecida a la que me da "Las Dos Torres", de J.R.R. Tolkien. No me extraña porque, si no me equivoco, Canción de Hielo y Fuego iba a ser una trilogía, por lo que esta entrega se siente un poco así, en mi opinión.
También es verdad que no es la primera vez que lo leo, creo que para quienes lo lean por primera vez, no tiene por qué ser así. Para mí no lo fue cuando lo leí por primera vez, pero ahora sí. No quiero decir que esto tenga nada de malo, pero a veces se siente más "lento" o que la historia está en "fase de construcción" y, de nuevo, no creo que esto sea algo malo, pero hay personas a las que esto podría hacérseles algo pesado, quizá. De todas formas, si te gustó "Juego de Tronos", este también te gustará porque aquí la historia se amplía y avanza a pesar de lo que sucede al final del anterior libro; además de seguir descubriendo cosas sucedidas en el pasado reciente de algunos de los personajes y que llevaron a los sucesos actuales. Eso siempre es interesante y la forma de hilar con detalles que tiene Martin a mí simplemente me encanta.
Aparte, tiene momentazos, premoniciones, sueños (estos dos últimos muy raros en la serie) y aquí también brilla muchísimo la simbología y la heráldica que usa Martin para darle más profundidad al universo. En eso esta segunda entrega no flaquea en absoluto. Y para quienes estén leyendo los libros después de haber visto alguna de las series relacionadas con este universo, aquí descubrirán más cosas que en las adaptaciones de HBO no se incluyeron. Eso personalmente me enganchó mucho en su día, incluso ahora me he visto sorprendida por detalles relacionados con los protagonistas de "La Casa del Dragón" que en su día simplemente me eran ajenos. Creo que las tramas que más se benefician de esto en este libro son las de Stannis (a través de los ojos de Davos), Theon y Daenerys, en mi opinión, aunque en general todas tienen algo por descubrir y ampliar.
Sin meterme en muchos detalles (si no quieres saber absolutamente nada, no leas este párrafo), el capítulo en el que llega Theon a las Islas del Hierro y en el que Daenerys visita la casa de los Eternos son espectaculares de leer, por mencionar un par.
Creo que este libro es menos "impactante", por así decirlo, que su predecesor, pero encierra muchísima historia y muy buenos detalles que hará las delicias de cualquier persona que quedara prendada de la saga leyendo el primer tomo.
Por otro lado, para comentar un poco sobre esta edición en concreto (si no te interesa también puedes saltar estos párrafos), yo compré todos los tomos de segunda mano en bastante buen estado y a bastante buen precio y merecen muchísimo la pena. Si ya eres fan de la saga, te gusta coleccionarlos o quieres hacerte con los libros en físico, la recomiendo mucho (sobre todo si pretendes releerlos varias veces). Cierto es que para llevarlos por ahí no son los más indicados, aunque yo lo haya hecho xD. También hay que tener en cuenta que Gigamesh ya no los publica, entonces no sé cómo estará la cosa con los tomos existentes ni qué sucederá si nuestro querido autor decide por fin publicar el siguiente libro, todo hay que decirlo.
Esta edición el papel que cubre los tomos es muy fino, y ya podría tener una continuidad al poner los tomos juntos. Me gusta la idea de poner cada casa más "destacable" en cada tomo pero me parece cutre el resultado, parece papel cebolla y ni siquiera me parece que quede bien, además de que se estropea con mucha facilidad (yo siempre lo quito a la hora de leer). Las tapas en sí con el arte de Coro Minas me parecen una pasada y el tacto cartoné se siente muy especial. Le encuadernación es muy buena y tiene un cordón a modo de marcapáginas, aunque si no se quema, pega o corta en diagonal o en forma de v, se deshilacha. Yo los he sellado con un poquito de cola y están perfectos después de años. Este tomo en concreto incluye un par de mapas de Poniente (norte y sur) y también uno de Desembarco del Rey, además de un pequeño índice con los integrantes de las diferentes casas.
Finalmente, concluiré diciendo que para mí la saga es un 10, pero dentro de ella (y sabiendo lo que se viene) creo que a Choque de Reyes (este segundo libro) le doy un 8 de 10 ⭐️
1,455 pages down in the series... ????? more to go!
This book is excellent. The battle scenes at the climax are so detailed you'd think the author were a medieval knight. The only reason it gets 4 stars is that even a quarter way into the book you were still getting more recapitulation than necessary.
This book is excellent. The battle scenes at the climax are so detailed you'd think the author were a medieval knight. The only reason it gets 4 stars is that even a quarter way into the book you were still getting more recapitulation than necessary.
I started reading the novels because of the HBO series. I'm very glad that I did. In many cases, there's a sense of disappointment in the differences between books and the television shows or movies made from them. This isn't the case with the A Song of Ice and Fire series.
In this second novel of the series, we find the land split with multiple kings fighting one another for the right to power. I was excited to find my favorite characters from the first novel continue their journeys and face new troubles. The main characters have a great deal of depth. The author has continued his pattern of writing each chapter from the point of view of one of those main characters. This is a must read for anyone who enjoyed the first novel. I don't know if I can wait for the third season of the show to …
I started reading the novels because of the HBO series. I'm very glad that I did. In many cases, there's a sense of disappointment in the differences between books and the television shows or movies made from them. This isn't the case with the A Song of Ice and Fire series.
In this second novel of the series, we find the land split with multiple kings fighting one another for the right to power. I was excited to find my favorite characters from the first novel continue their journeys and face new troubles. The main characters have a great deal of depth. The author has continued his pattern of writing each chapter from the point of view of one of those main characters. This is a must read for anyone who enjoyed the first novel. I don't know if I can wait for the third season of the show to start before reading the third novel. I look forward to seeing what's in store for everyone.
I love this book, as much as I love Game of Thrones. As someone who strongly dislikes fantasy novels, this proclamation still surprises me. Sure, the most bothersome elements of the genre - magic and dragons - are mostly present in the background of the story, but in the end George Martin's sage is still a pseudo-medieval display of swords and sorcery. So what makes it so enjoyable?
The reason is quite simple. Martin is an extremely gifted writer and Clash of Kings, like its prequel Game of Thrones, is oozing with examples of his amazing skills. He has mastered the art of description, alternating between clear, concrete prose and smart and lively analogies to instill a vivid image in the mind of the reader. He carefully constructs the development of his characters, allowing you to read their minds if you're not given access to them, and manages to equip …
I love this book, as much as I love Game of Thrones. As someone who strongly dislikes fantasy novels, this proclamation still surprises me. Sure, the most bothersome elements of the genre - magic and dragons - are mostly present in the background of the story, but in the end George Martin's sage is still a pseudo-medieval display of swords and sorcery. So what makes it so enjoyable?
The reason is quite simple. Martin is an extremely gifted writer and Clash of Kings, like its prequel Game of Thrones, is oozing with examples of his amazing skills. He has mastered the art of description, alternating between clear, concrete prose and smart and lively analogies to instill a vivid image in the mind of the reader. He carefully constructs the development of his characters, allowing you to read their minds if you're not given access to them, and manages to equip all of them with unique psychologies and manners. A writer who manages to have my recognize his characters by voice alone, is indeed a master of the craft. Although he overuses rape as a device to introduce characters of low moral caliber, most personality traits are introduced through subtle and clever means.
Similarly, the story itself is cleverly constructed. Convincing schemes and military strategies tie together countless subplots, to arrive at an epic narrative that holds the middle between Bronze Age war poems and historic non-fiction. Martin has truly created an alternative world, and takes the time to tell the readers some of its more interesting events.
In contrast to the rich descriptions and intricate plot, however, the work is thematically poor. Themes like loyalty, war and morality show up, but the only thing that separates it from medieval fiction in that regard is the use of multiple perspectives, and the accompanying blurring of boundaries between good and evil. In the end, the book just tells an engaging story and does not serve as food for thought. Maybe that's not important in fantasy novels - they're supposed to be escapist, after all - but that then may be the reason that I typically dislike works in the genre.
Clash of Kings is an exceptional read in that it can be recommended regardless of your opinion on fantasy novels. Just marveling at the techniques that George Martin uses makes the book worth your while - the entertaining story makes for a great bonus.
Boy, this book twists and turns, as it drives the characters further and further apart. Keeping track of all the characters almost seems a futile effort at times, since they're wont to die pretty quickly, then come back just as quickly, thanks to unreliable narration (which is wielded to great effect).
Boy, this book twists and turns, as it drives the characters further and further apart. Keeping track of all the characters almost seems a futile effort at times, since they're wont to die pretty quickly, then come back just as quickly, thanks to unreliable narration (which is wielded to great effect).
Good solid novel, though the author does "meander" through sections, whole chapters of 'nothing really happend' with no character development. Enjoyable though.
Good solid novel, though the author does "meander" through sections, whole chapters of 'nothing really happend' with no character development. Enjoyable though.
I think the nerds are right on this one, but why, in this genre, are there so many wise people around. You can get an aphorism from a passing mage, a dwarf or your retarded cousin, and after you blow-off your retarded cousin's comment, the mage will say "he is wiser than you know". I read this on the Kindle, so no maps, but, believe it or not, if you check on the internet there are whole galleries of maps of Westeros.
I think the nerds are right on this one, but why, in this genre, are there so many wise people around. You can get an aphorism from a passing mage, a dwarf or your retarded cousin, and after you blow-off your retarded cousin's comment, the mage will say "he is wiser than you know". I read this on the Kindle, so no maps, but, believe it or not, if you check on the internet there are whole galleries of maps of Westeros.