d4rko reviewed Wind and Truth by Brandon Sanderson (The Stormlight Archive, #5)
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3 stars
This book should have 400 less pages. That is all.
Brandon Sanderson: Wind and Truth (2024, Doherty Associates, LLC, Tom)
English language
Published 2024 by Doherty Associates, LLC, Tom.
This book should have 400 less pages. That is all.
I'm a huge fan of Brando Sando and adore this series, but I couldn't help but feel this was the weakest book so far - it kinda stumbled around a bit, had threads that didn't quite make sense and some of the character writing was a little off. Not to say it wasn't enjoyable, but impossible not to compare to the rest of his works.
Content warning Things that happen... not so much plot
These were some things that I particularly enjoyed.
Let me preface this by saying I still really like the world of the cosmere and the world of Roshar. I think in a world with a lot of great novels, there's bound to be ones that are weaker. Just some notes: - There was a lot of meandering in the plot for this one. I felt like a lot of character arcs didn't feel organic or didn't really go anywhere that was interesting - There's a theme in here around depression, but some of the 4th camera wall breaking was just jarring and some of the diction and language just felt forced and inorganic which took me out of the plot - There doesn't really feel like there's a proper ending to this novel. The crux of the plot is around the content of champions, but it feels like so little is spent on that plot that it didn't …
Let me preface this by saying I still really like the world of the cosmere and the world of Roshar. I think in a world with a lot of great novels, there's bound to be ones that are weaker. Just some notes: - There was a lot of meandering in the plot for this one. I felt like a lot of character arcs didn't feel organic or didn't really go anywhere that was interesting - There's a theme in here around depression, but some of the 4th camera wall breaking was just jarring and some of the diction and language just felt forced and inorganic which took me out of the plot - There doesn't really feel like there's a proper ending to this novel. The crux of the plot is around the content of champions, but it feels like so little is spent on that plot that it didn't carry a lot of weight
This was definitely the hardest one for me to finish. Not sure it's one I'd want to do a reread on. Maybe when we know more about the cosmere, this one will carry more weight
"Well now," Dieno said. "That's a finale."
Maybe it's childhood nostalgia, but every once in a while I get that urge to read a giant fantasy tome, and Brandon Sanderson's work always hits that mark for me. It's never going to be world shattering fiction for me, but it's fun to get lost in the adventure, intricate worldbuilding, and large cast of characters.
Overall, my feelings are that Wind and Truth is a quite solid final book for a five book fantasy series. It sticks the landing on major character arcs and themes, and hits quite satisfying expected (and unexpected) plot moments. One thing it does really well is touching back on previous moments to show new information, as plot points, or as a foil for character changes. On the negative side, this book is an incredibly hefty tome and while it feels like it had a lot of …
"Well now," Dieno said. "That's a finale."
Maybe it's childhood nostalgia, but every once in a while I get that urge to read a giant fantasy tome, and Brandon Sanderson's work always hits that mark for me. It's never going to be world shattering fiction for me, but it's fun to get lost in the adventure, intricate worldbuilding, and large cast of characters.
Overall, my feelings are that Wind and Truth is a quite solid final book for a five book fantasy series. It sticks the landing on major character arcs and themes, and hits quite satisfying expected (and unexpected) plot moments. One thing it does really well is touching back on previous moments to show new information, as plot points, or as a foil for character changes. On the negative side, this book is an incredibly hefty tome and while it feels like it had a lot of editing and the pacing is consistent (but arguably slow), it's hard not to wonder what else could have been trimmed.
That's the summary. Here's a lot more rambling if you need a jumble of other opinions:
This book may be book five in a five book series, but if we zoom out it's series one of two, and if you zoom out further there's a constellation :drum: of other series and series of series that interconnect in Sanderson's cosmere universe. Personally, I am neutral (at best) and often negative on the costs of these inter-book connections. Sure, your universe has magical world hoppers, but I don't need them showing up in a story that's not about that.
I value "tight" stories and closure, where pieces have a purpose towards the aim of the story at hand. Characters and concepts from different stories make the immediate story feel loose. They are literal loose ends, with characters that we don't know and who don't show up again. If you were writing this series to end conclusively and stand independently on its own, you would absolutely make drastic edits. In this book alone, you would hypothetically cut the Shattered Plains entirely, arguably Zahel and friend, Thaidaker and the Ghostbloods, the Iri people, the dawn shards. However, this additional constraint of plot hooks for other stories or to tease tiny world building details feel like a fundamental part of the structure of Sanderson's cosmere fiction. For some readers who read and wiki-ify every lore crumb, I'm sure these are exciting to puzzle or theorize about.
On the positive side, Ben Kelly makes a great point that Sanderson writes with "fractal detail", such that if you miss some or even all references you can still appreciate the larger thrust of the story. The flip side is that to make that fractal possible, these referential and out of band world building details necessarily can't be important to the story at hand. Even in rare cases where side characters get to be part of the plot (Wit mostly, Zahel sorta), there's no room for character development because it just ain't their story. At best, readers can go "hey, I remember that guy". It's a subset of the extended universe problem or "the gang's all here" problem where you have too many characters and can't focus on all of them (and so one might ask why are they there, and what purpose are they serving).
Length-wise, this book is quite the hefty tome, weighing in at some 1300 pages and a 300mb epub, and that's with no appendixes or extra story tacked on. I still think there were some good editing choices here, although I wonder if readers who want their power fantasy action scenes will be disappointed by the number of elided events and the focus on feelings. For example, to me it's a point in the story's favor that we only see Adolin's reaction to (spoiler elided) or how one chapter opens with a "so yeah we beat Yelig-nar again, aaanyways moving on". Neither of these action scenes would likely have furthered the themes of the story or added characterization (that couldn't have been done elsewhere).
Although there's many point of view characters, each book in this series prioritizes a different one to focus on their back story. In this one, we get to see Szeth's childhood and his path to becoming truthless. Sadly for me, the whole Szeth storyline past and present is probably the weakest point of view. Some of this is due to the delineated path his present self is on and the limited amount of revelations we get about his character or the world through his view. It's not that I didn't enjoy it or I thought it was bad, but it just felt a lot weaker in comparison to Dalinar or Shallan's back story. Thematically, the ideas around laws, oaths, and choices resonate well with the rest of the book, but the plot itself didn't capture me as much as I would have wanted in the final book in a series. I think some of this is also the heavy handedness of the language around Kaladin trying to literally be a therapist to Szeth. (Maybe also it's just jarring for me for books to use the word "therapist" and "boundaries" in a fantasy world.) This is not the only part of the book that feels heavy handed and moralizing, it's just the one that sticks out the most to me.
My memory is poor, but I think also that this is the first book that has had queer (or at least gay) characters. It feels a bit like Sanderson is trying to stretch a little bit as a writer (especially one who is very publicly Mormon). Some bits work less well for me, in that there is an aside about some trans Azish recruits that we never hear from again. I don't need every story where characters have some minority identity to revolve around that identity, but I think I'm a little sensitive as a reader to anything that feels adjacent to a diversity checkbox, where that fact isn't integrated into the rest of the story very well and feels tacked on. On the positive side, I think the major gay relationship in this book works really well, as those characters have plenty of other things going on such that they are not the "gay" characters. If anything, I'd say thematically them being gay adds to their feelings of being othered in different ways that really works.
(I would be incredibly curious to read a take from plural systems or autistic folks about representation in these books.)
That's all the non-spoilery thoughts I've got.
I guess I had been looking forward to the end of this first arc so much that I felt a little bit disappointed—although I can't really pinpoint what was missing. It definitely didn’t hit the same spots as Words of Radiance. All that said, I did enjoy the read. Looking forward to the next books :)
Couldn’t put down! Had a hard time with all of the Cosmere connections while avoiding the Coppermind wiki because of spoilers (pretty much every page had a warning). Can’t wait for the send half!
A long but sadisfying end to an arc. Really enjoyed the book had a hard time stopping.
I finished Wind and Truth, the latest book in the Stormlight Archives by Brandon Sanderson. It finishes out the first arc of 5 books, resolving many of the plot points from the first 4 books while setting up the next saga. It is more clear than every that the Stormlight Archive is the central series in Sanderson's "Cosmere", the one that really ties them all together.
And on the whole, I love it. I love the direction that Kaladin takes, and I continue to enjoy Shalan, although I think her story was one of the weaker ones in this novel. Dalinar and Navany were also engaging, but the real stars, to me, were Szeth, Rhenarin, and above all the rest, Adolin. Yes, Adolin.
The book handles a lot of mental illness and neurodivergence, and even a fair bit of LGBTQ+. Sanderson has a long list of consultants he's used for …
I finished Wind and Truth, the latest book in the Stormlight Archives by Brandon Sanderson. It finishes out the first arc of 5 books, resolving many of the plot points from the first 4 books while setting up the next saga. It is more clear than every that the Stormlight Archive is the central series in Sanderson's "Cosmere", the one that really ties them all together.
And on the whole, I love it. I love the direction that Kaladin takes, and I continue to enjoy Shalan, although I think her story was one of the weaker ones in this novel. Dalinar and Navany were also engaging, but the real stars, to me, were Szeth, Rhenarin, and above all the rest, Adolin. Yes, Adolin.
The book handles a lot of mental illness and neurodivergence, and even a fair bit of LGBTQ+. Sanderson has a long list of consultants he's used for every one of these issues, but the results are sometimes a bit stilted, a bit too perfect. That being said, for all that those moments were sometimes a bit awkward, they never felt out of place. The main reason is that they were always plot relevant. It didn't feel like being "pulled aside" for a little lecture, or like something was forced in on a rewrite without changing anything else around it. However slightly awkward the moments, they were fully integrated, so they didn't leave much of a lingering bad taste in my mouth (not as much as I'd expected after reading warnings about them from other reviewers).
At this point I think it is clear that the Stormlight Archive has deep roots in Sanderson's own struggles with the Mormon church he (ostensibly?) belongs to. Given his increasingly vocal support for LGBTQ+ characters, I do wonder if he's still as welcome.
Anyways, Dalinar in particular might be, I think, Sanderson's self-insert character, and Dalinar's journey is all about reconciling reality with a faith he grew up in, and finding it lacking. (I'll say no more, lest spoilers).
But yeah, overall, I highly recommend the series to anyone with the time to read it.
This one took a while, but ~1400 pages take a while, especially if you need to look up some of the past books information to remember the details. The epic saga continues and while a lot is explained, even more questions remain open.
Let's see where books 6-10 will leave us in the end. The good thing with Sanderson is that I absolutely believe he will finish the work.
Apparently Brandon Sanderson decided that filling the last 300 pages with a complex and desperate fight in the previous books was not enough. This time the complex and desperate fight fills the last 1100 pages. It takes place on multiple fronts too.
Sadly, these fronts interact little with each other. You could technically separate each location into its own book and read the stories that way. They still lend "dramatic" support to each other I guess. But it makes it natural to review each place separately!
Adolin: Cool action, cool characters, very satisfying conclusion. Everyone's favorite. ★★★★★
Kaladin, Syl, and Szeth: A road trip with chatting and fighting. It's an important story for the world, but it's not that interesting. What is super interesting and very well presented is Szeth's flashbacks. I thought for sure Szeth was irredeemable! And then Brandon Sanderson pulls this. Szeth is the best. ★★★★★
Dalinar …
Apparently Brandon Sanderson decided that filling the last 300 pages with a complex and desperate fight in the previous books was not enough. This time the complex and desperate fight fills the last 1100 pages. It takes place on multiple fronts too.
Sadly, these fronts interact little with each other. You could technically separate each location into its own book and read the stories that way. They still lend "dramatic" support to each other I guess. But it makes it natural to review each place separately!
Adolin: Cool action, cool characters, very satisfying conclusion. Everyone's favorite. ★★★★★
Kaladin, Syl, and Szeth: A road trip with chatting and fighting. It's an important story for the world, but it's not that interesting. What is super interesting and very well presented is Szeth's flashbacks. I thought for sure Szeth was irredeemable! And then Brandon Sanderson pulls this. Szeth is the best. ★★★★★
Dalinar and Navani: This is like an infodump. Just directly telling us what happened. Just absolutely pulling the veil from everything. But Sanderson had a few ideas to spice it up! We're in the spiritual realm. We don't know who is who. We have secondary objectives. (Get next anchor. Keep together.) Assassins! Wrathful gods! The best infodump ever! The info itself that is revealed is also perfect. Direct answers to everything we wanted to know, but so many new questions! What's that about Taln trying to kill Cultivation??? The conclusion for Dalinar is unexpected, but I trust Sanderson with it. UNITE THEM! ★★★★★
Shallan, Renarin, and Rlain: Not actually separate from Dalinar's story, but deserves a separate mention. Sneaking around in the spiritual realm is some next level spy thriller. I love how they track down Ba-Ado-Mishram's prison, and the whole Ba-Ado-Mishram story is so cool. Renarin and Rlain are perfect for this job, and everyone gets an exciting conclusion. ★★★★★
Sigzil and Venli: Some nice character building, nice action, nice conclusions. ★★★★☆
Jasnah: So interesting. We haven't spent much time with Jasnah before, and she's just this perfect scholar and general for us because everyone sees her like that. And she sees herself like that. I'm afraid the most important person does not see her like that: Brandon Sanderson. Sorry, Jasnah! ★★★★☆
Interludes: Tanavast's interludes were (intentionally) pretentious and sparing with revelations. But some interludes were very cool, like Rysn or the Iriali. ★★★★★
Just freeze me until the next book please!
This is the ending of the first arc of The Stormlight Archive and it is quite an impressive book. It's very long, and the plot does suffer a bit in the middle parts, but the setting and characters are well established so I felt drawn to it all the way. Overall, it was a great book and a fitting conclusion to this arc. I really want to know what happens next, but suspect it may be several years before we return to Roshar.
For a full review, check out my blog: strakul.blogspot.com/2024/12/book-review-wind-and-truth-by-brandon.html
This is the ending of the first arc of The Stormlight Archive and it is quite an impressive book. It's very long, and the plot does suffer a bit in the middle parts, but the setting and characters are well established so I felt drawn to it all the way. Overall, it was a great book and a fitting conclusion to this arc. I really want to know what happens next, but suspect it may be several years before we return to Roshar.
For a full review, check out my blog: strakul.blogspot.com/2024/12/book-review-wind-and-truth-by-brandon.html
Content warning Plot spoilers, also for The Sunlit Man
Kaladin's fifth ideal made me chuckle, as did his realization that Hoid/Wit had kinda been his therapist this whole time. I felt bad for Jasnah, I wish we had gotten more time with her through these first five books. I was pleased with how well the author did this part of Sigzil's transition to becoming The Sunlit Man.
Some of the dialogue felt moralizing and pretty heavy-handed. Not anything I disagreed with, I've found many of his characters' struggles throughout the series very relatable, just felt like the author treated his characters like sock puppets more in this book than previous ones.
Content warning Plot spoilers
A good ending to this arc of the Stormlight Archive. In classic Sanderson fashion, the end of the book moves at a million miles per hour, is amazing, and leaves you hyped for the next book in the Cosmere.
Some great character development from Szeth, Kaladin, and especially Renarin. Plenty of Cosmere-awareness thanks to Hoid. I love Sandersons effort to write authentic representations of characters struggling with mental health. There were a few very emotional moments in the Hoid -> Kaladin -> Szeth therapy arc which I adored.
I couldn't help the feeling that the book was just too long. I felt like Sando had so many characters to follow, and so many threads (some of which I'm not sure matter at the moment?) that it did feel less of a cohesive story and more a compilation of shorter stories woven together. I don't think I enjoyed that too much, but when they came together at the end it was great.
Dalinar is one of my favourite characters, and I was shattered by his choice at the end and what it did to Honor and the Stormfather. I'm glad he's still about, but there's no way he'll be the same. I don't think anything will top him opening Honor's perpendicularity in the last book, but this was close.
Disappointed with Jasnah - one of my other favourites - I think this book terribly underserved her, unless it's being set up to be "just as plannedTM" - there must be more to it. The debate with Odium seemed mishandled.
I think it's always going to be hard to connect the worlds of the Cosmere together so that the future books exist in the same time/space so I'll forgive any awkwardness that might be due to that.
Sanderson still blows my mind with the scope of what he's achieving with the Cosmere. Any criticism I have pales in comparison to the epic scale of this story.
“Welcome, Kaladin Stormblessed. Herald of Kings. Herald of the Wind. Herald of…” “Herald,” Kaladin said, “of Second Chances.”