neirda reviewed Apologie de Socrate by Platone
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3 stars
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English language
Published June 30, 2016
Apologie de Socrate
by Platone
In what relation the Apology of Plato stands to the real defence of Socrates, there are no means of determining. It certainly agrees in tone and character with the description of Xenophon, who says in the Memorabilia that Socrates might have been acquitted 'if in any moderate degree he would have conciliated the favour of the dicasts;' and who informs us in another passage, on the testimony of Hermogenes, the friend of Socrates, that he had no wish to live; and that the divine sign refused to allow him to prepare a defence, and also that Socrates himself declared this to be unnecessary, on the ground that all his life long he had been preparing against that hour.
In what relation the Apology of Plato stands to the real defence of Socrates, there are no means of determining. It certainly agrees in tone and character with the description of Xenophon, who says in the Memorabilia that Socrates might have been acquitted 'if in any moderate degree he would have conciliated the favour of the dicasts;' and who informs us in another passage, on the testimony of Hermogenes, the friend of Socrates, that he had no wish to live; and that the divine sign refused to allow him to prepare a defence, and also that Socrates himself declared this to be unnecessary, on the ground that all his life long he had been preparing against that hour.
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5 stars
This is the best introduction to the character of Socrates. It has his humor and wit front-and-center, as well as Socrates' own account of the history of his opposers and why they oppose him. He basically explains himself and his whole life. It is also one of the more religious of the dialogues, where he explains why he believes the gods have put him on this earth and how he has a relationship with a god that speaks to him only in the negative (telling him what not to do, but never what to do). It became clear to me from reading this that Socrates was really of the prophet type. Mouthpiece of the gods, speaking truth to power, all that. It helps you really understand his character well. Lots of interesting things here.
Socrates does go to great lengths to make fun of his opposition, which makes it a …
This is the best introduction to the character of Socrates. It has his humor and wit front-and-center, as well as Socrates' own account of the history of his opposers and why they oppose him. He basically explains himself and his whole life. It is also one of the more religious of the dialogues, where he explains why he believes the gods have put him on this earth and how he has a relationship with a god that speaks to him only in the negative (telling him what not to do, but never what to do). It became clear to me from reading this that Socrates was really of the prophet type. Mouthpiece of the gods, speaking truth to power, all that. It helps you really understand his character well. Lots of interesting things here.
Socrates does go to great lengths to make fun of his opposition, which makes it a little weaker than other dialogues, but he's in a courtroom drama, where there are 501 jurors, and it's really kind of a popularity contest. He has to play a little bit more of the rhetorical / persuasive speech skills than he would in a normal dialogue. So this is, I think, fully understandable in the context.
It's a really short and easy read, especially compared to other dialogues. Highly recommended. Just read it. It's part of the "Trial and Death of Socrates" plays, so you may get it as part of a compilation of a few others that are also relatively easy to read and all go together. Pretty much anyone can read early Plato.
ruimaio reviewed Apologia de Sócrates. Críton by Platone (Clássicos Gregos e Latinos, #16)
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5 stars
É um enorme privilégio termos acesso a um livro escrito por Platão, acerca das palavras proferidas por Sócrates, aquando do seu julgamento.
A argumentação de Sócrates é simplesmente brilhante, porém sem quaisquer artifícios: apenas a verdade o guiava.
Foi um imenso gosto ler esta obra, e considero que as notas inscritas ao longo do texto foram essenciais, no sentido de promover uma melhor contextualização a todos os níveis.
Review of 'Apology' on 'Goodreads'
4 stars
Great book. Plato is a great writer and rightfully acclaimed so, and Socrates is a good teacher for creating a student that could write his speech just by knowing what he would have said.
(Yes, according to Xenophon, Plato wasn't really present at the speech)
Great book. Plato is a great writer and rightfully acclaimed so, and Socrates is a good teacher for creating a student that could write his speech just by knowing what he would have said.
(Yes, according to Xenophon, Plato wasn't really present at the speech)
