matt reviewed The Poppy War by R. F. Kuang (duplicate) (The Poppy War, #1)
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4 stars
Much more gruesome than I thought it would be
Maková válka, #1
Paperback, 536 pages
Czech language
Published by Host.
Vyškolili ji pro válku. Ona ji hodlá ukončit.
Když Rin složila kche-ťü — zkoušky určené pro nejnadanější žáky v říši — na výbornou, byl to šok pro všechny: pro hodnotitele, neschopné uvěřit, že válečná sirota z provincie Kohouta by mohla projít bez podvádění, pro Rininy poručníky, plánující svou svěřenkyni vhodně provdat a přijít touto cestou k bohatství, i pro samotnou Rin. Té došlo, že se konečně osvobodila ze života v porobě. To, že se dostala na Sinegard — nejprestižnější vojenskou akademii v Nikanu —, bylo ještě překvapivější.
Ale překvapení nejsou vždy příznivá. Být na Sinegardu snědá venkovská holka z jihu totiž není lehké. Rin při boji s předsudky soupeřících spolužáků zjistí, že oplývá smrtonosnou, nadpřirozenou mocí — vlohami pro bezmála bájné umění šamanství. Při důkladnějším poznávání svého nadání s pomocí psychoaktivních látek a zdánlivě šíleného učitele se navíc dozví, že bohové, považovaní za dávno mrtvé, jsou živí až příliš a …
Vyškolili ji pro válku. Ona ji hodlá ukončit.
Když Rin složila kche-ťü — zkoušky určené pro nejnadanější žáky v říši — na výbornou, byl to šok pro všechny: pro hodnotitele, neschopné uvěřit, že válečná sirota z provincie Kohouta by mohla projít bez podvádění, pro Rininy poručníky, plánující svou svěřenkyni vhodně provdat a přijít touto cestou k bohatství, i pro samotnou Rin. Té došlo, že se konečně osvobodila ze života v porobě. To, že se dostala na Sinegard — nejprestižnější vojenskou akademii v Nikanu —, bylo ještě překvapivější.
Ale překvapení nejsou vždy příznivá. Být na Sinegardu snědá venkovská holka z jihu totiž není lehké. Rin při boji s předsudky soupeřících spolužáků zjistí, že oplývá smrtonosnou, nadpřirozenou mocí — vlohami pro bezmála bájné umění šamanství. Při důkladnějším poznávání svého nadání s pomocí psychoaktivních látek a zdánlivě šíleného učitele se navíc dozví, že bohové, považovaní za dávno mrtvé, jsou živí až příliš a na ovládnutí jejich schopností závisí víc než jen přežití ve škole.
V nikarské říši totiž vládne mír, ale za úzkým pásem moře stále číhá Mukenský svaz. Ten po první makové válce okupoval Nikan celá desetiletí a ve druhé prohrál vládu nad světadílem jen tak tak. A zatímco se většina obyvatel v klidu věnuje svým životům, někteří vědí, že třetí maková válka může vzplanout kdykoli…
Much more gruesome than I thought it would be
Goodness gracious, what a read. Let me start by saying that overall, I enjoyed this book. I thought it was a really strong entry into the trilogy as well as a very good story in and of itself. However what stood out to me the most was its very unique structure. Many aspects of this book were solidly YA. The characters were written very YA, the relationships were extremely YA, and the story beats (girl has to prove herself to get into school against all odds, girl has to prove herself at school against all odds, girl has to prove herself in battle against all odds, etc.) This was most prominent in the first third of the book, to the extent that I was convinced that the book had been mislabeled as 'Adult fantasy'. And it was these aspects of the book that were my least favorite. I felt that …
Goodness gracious, what a read. Let me start by saying that overall, I enjoyed this book. I thought it was a really strong entry into the trilogy as well as a very good story in and of itself. However what stood out to me the most was its very unique structure. Many aspects of this book were solidly YA. The characters were written very YA, the relationships were extremely YA, and the story beats (girl has to prove herself to get into school against all odds, girl has to prove herself at school against all odds, girl has to prove herself in battle against all odds, etc.) This was most prominent in the first third of the book, to the extent that I was convinced that the book had been mislabeled as 'Adult fantasy'. And it was these aspects of the book that were my least favorite. I felt that the characters were fairly flat and the story beats were predictable.
But in the last 2/3rds of the book (mainly the last third) the story took a HEAVY dark turn. I mean a near genre shift to hard grimdark. I really commend the author for her incredibly gritty and realistic depiction of the horrors of war because this was extremely brutal. The lighthearted cast of kid characters we grew to know were put through horrific, cruel encounters and completely traumatized, if not graphically slaughtered outright. The main character's "chosen girl" qualities were quickly overshadowed by her poor childlike decisions. But this was not frustrating because she is literally a child making decisions one would expect a child to make. Again, the author expertly crafted a realistic narrative for how children would act in traumatic circumstances. While I never felt that the characters met the level of 'well-developed' the decisions that they made did feel authentic.
The pacing of the story was okay, often times rapidly moving through story points in a few pages, other times lingering on details for just as long. I'd love to see improvements in character development and pacing in the subsequent books, but I'm really excited to continue this story.
This one started out really slow and I almost gave up before the real sparks began to fly. It ended up being very good and had enough unique qualities make me want to continue reading this series.
Giving this four stars because it is excellent for what it is, but not really my cup of tea. It has quite a lot of graphic violence and gore, and when it's not violent and gory, it's very philosophical.
This was both fantastic and completely not for me :) I'm glad I read it, I won't be reading the following books.
Largely I really enjoyed this book. Rin is an interesting character most of the time, and there's a lot of cool worldbuilding and cool events throughout. The characters mostly develop nicely, and we see quite a few interesting twists that change things up but aren't totally out of nowhere, which is normally my preference.
Something I didn't know until shortly after I started reading was that this uses the Sino-Japanese war around the WW2 era as its basis. Something I didn't know until I was most of the way through was how much of that war is replayed in this story. Check the content warnings for this book if there are topics you might be worried about, because that war covered a lot of bases.
My main issue with this book is that sometimes the cliches smack you right in the face. There's some rough whiplash between a fresh fantasy …
The Empire didn't need someone reasonable. It needed someone mad enough to try to save it.
Wow. This was really quite a ride. And now I struggle to put my conflicting feelings into words, but I guess I'll try.
I really wanted to like this book, and the thing is, it has all the makings of a dark fantasy novel for me to love. (There were parts that were incredibly disturbing to read, especially knowing that they were essentially a retelling of actual history, but hey, I've seen the content warnings and knew what I was getting into.) I like dark fantasy, on occasion. I like fantasy world build upon cultural backgrounds different from the "so, this is basically Western Europe but fantasy" usual. I like flawed, tragic antihero type protagonists who go from "genocide is horrible" to "so I'll genocide you right back." I like stories about gods and …
The Empire didn't need someone reasonable. It needed someone mad enough to try to save it.
Good but not great. The book started off just being average using a school setting to instruct our protagonist (and reader) about society, magic and such. I don't mind this method of world building but the delivery here was unexciting.
Each Part of the book escalated drastically and the Young Adult school setting from the start is a distant memory once the grim and horrific bodies start to pile up. There was enough to keep me entertained but I never felt fully invested in character or story either.
The final Part of the book was very gory and dark that it was equally disturbing and entertaining to read. With the enemy known and our hero aware of her powers I am intrigued to push on to Poppy War #2 but am not sold on the series as a whole so will see how I feel after the next instalment.
This is hard book to rate: I liked much of the world building but the other reviews commenting on the uneven characterization and jarring increase in darkness certainly weren’t wrong. I’m not sure how to feel about the use of real historical atrocities, either: the book lacking the developed history left that part feeling unexplained — we have a generic explanation for the conflict but it didn’t feel real enough to explain the intensity without relying on your knowledge of real-world Chinese-Japanese history. Having one minor character return briefly solely to be motivational felt heavy-handed.
I don’t know what it was. Maybe just too long-winded. Anyway, at some point i got bored with this.
In the middle of an action scene, no less.
It started out OK. Basically, you are not supposed to pass the kējǔ as a poor person, and when you do, the rich folks will look down on you. But then there wasn’t really all that much else.
The Poppy War : 4.5
A great fantasy with Chinese inspired elements, written by a Chinese author we love to see it ! Also the author wrote this at 19, and won many awards for this debut novel, the talent^^
Rin, a poor war orphan, gets into this elite military school and will face many difficulties and ennemies..and that's it for now! Just keep in mind that this is adult, and it contains hard topics related to war times.
Also I started this because I thought the final book was coming out in May, turns out it was pushed back to November, lol..
Spoilers! Underdog self harming orphan girl is the Chosen One, joins X-Men assassin squad of child drug addicts, proceeds to turn to the Dark Side and genocide Nazis and civilian support cities with lava, in alternate universe historical China where gods granting magic is a thing. Problematical. Books 1 and 2 great, 3 goes off the rails. Strong female lead, not for kids. TW: drug use, self harm, violence, rape, atrocities
This book started off as something I couldn't put down, and threw me for a loop a dozen times. It transforms from a fish-out-of-water university story to a spiritual pantheon epic, back around to a speculative-fiction take on the Japanese Imperial occupation of main-land China, back around to the internalized trauma of war, all while centering itself on the notion of choice(and lack-there-of in some cases), with compelling(but always flawed) characters pulling you through.
Looking forward to where book two takes me.
Political theory, modern Sino-Japanese history and genocide interwoven with fantasy - this book was written keeping me in mind. So very good.
The pacing is very good overall, but it flags at the 60% mark. I think that's a deliberate choice - Rin lacks agency in this stretch of the book, being more of an observer, and that's reflected in the writing. Altan's character and the portrayal of the gods serves as a good canvas to reflect on how we ascribe external justifications for our violence, and the enduring effects of this violence.
It gets brutal and violently graphic later in the book; I had to stop reading for a bit. But I guess that's the point when you're talking about the unforgivable horrors of war. This particular portrayal will stay with me.
Pick up this book if you're a history buff and love the competitive school fantasy trope. This …
Political theory, modern Sino-Japanese history and genocide interwoven with fantasy - this book was written keeping me in mind. So very good.
The pacing is very good overall, but it flags at the 60% mark. I think that's a deliberate choice - Rin lacks agency in this stretch of the book, being more of an observer, and that's reflected in the writing. Altan's character and the portrayal of the gods serves as a good canvas to reflect on how we ascribe external justifications for our violence, and the enduring effects of this violence.
It gets brutal and violently graphic later in the book; I had to stop reading for a bit. But I guess that's the point when you're talking about the unforgivable horrors of war. This particular portrayal will stay with me.
Pick up this book if you're a history buff and love the competitive school fantasy trope. This series holds great promise.
Hugely ambitious epic fantasy set in an alt-universe China. Starts out light and familiar for fantasy (smart plucky girl goes to magic school) but then makes a abrupt left turn into a war novel that is unrelentingly violent and grim. Uneven pacing, thin supporting cast, protagonist makes baffling decisions, and very hard to read in the last third. I was impressed with the ambition but conflicted about the craft. The author is very young and this is her first novel. I'll give #2 a chance.