Paperback, 608 pages
English language
Published Aug. 15, 1992 by Tor Books.
On Lusitania, Ender finds a world where humans and pequeninos and the Hive Queen could all live together. However, Lusitania also harbors the descolada, a virus that kills all humans it infects, but which the pequeninos require in order to become adults. The Starways Congress so fears the effects of the descolada, should it escape from Lusitania, that they have ordered the destruction of the entire planet, and all who live there. With the Fleet on its way, a second xenocide seems inevitable.
Ender el xenocida continúa la senda de muy buenas historias de ciencia ficción a cargo de Orson Scott Card. Aún así, esta tercera parte me parece la más baja, pero deja el camino abierto con varias preguntas sin responder que asumo se abordan en el siguiente título.
Então... O livro é muito longo. E não me refiro ao número de páginas, que em alguma edições chega a quase 600, é possível ser longo escrevendo 10 páginas.
O grande problema é que certas explicações se tornam tediosas e desnecessárias. As divagações metafísicas, presentes em quase todos os personagens, não são exercícios de pensamento, são afirmações curtas de "se situação A é aceita, logo situação B é decorrente" seguida da repetição do que é a situação A e do que é a situação B por páginas e páginas.
Um dos maiores problemas pra mim é Quara, ela é claramente insana. Ele defende de maneira irracional a extinção de duas espécies, incluindo a espécie humana, em defesa de uma forma de vida que pode ou não ser inteligente.
Também me incomoda muito o tratamento dado a Novinha. Ela desaparece e reaparece na história com quase múltiplas personalidade quando é conveniente. …
Então... O livro é muito longo. E não me refiro ao número de páginas, que em alguma edições chega a quase 600, é possível ser longo escrevendo 10 páginas.
O grande problema é que certas explicações se tornam tediosas e desnecessárias. As divagações metafísicas, presentes em quase todos os personagens, não são exercícios de pensamento, são afirmações curtas de "se situação A é aceita, logo situação B é decorrente" seguida da repetição do que é a situação A e do que é a situação B por páginas e páginas.
Um dos maiores problemas pra mim é Quara, ela é claramente insana. Ele defende de maneira irracional a extinção de duas espécies, incluindo a espécie humana, em defesa de uma forma de vida que pode ou não ser inteligente.
Também me incomoda muito o tratamento dado a Novinha. Ela desaparece e reaparece na história com quase múltiplas personalidade quando é conveniente. Também não sei como me sinto com o aparecimento do Peter e da Jovem Val, entendo que são expressões do subconsciente do Ender, mas manifestá-los na forma e psique de um irmão e irmã... talvez aceitasse melhor se fossem manifestações do próprio Ender.
Ainda interpreto como sofrível a maneira como as personagens femininas são tratadas. Em geral são um poço de irracionalidade e raiva até que uma interferência "salvadora" seja inserida. Contudo tenho que admitir que achei uma representação melhor do que em [b:O Jogo do Exterminador|6461454|O Jogo do Exterminador (Ender's Saga, #1)|Orson Scott Card|https://i.gr-assets.com/images/S/compressed.photo.goodreads.com/books/1333658193l/6461454._SY75_.jpg|2422333] e [b:Orador dos Mortos|11560139|Orador dos Mortos (Ender's Saga, #2)|Orson Scott Card|https://i.gr-assets.com/images/S/compressed.photo.goodreads.com/books/1308369717l/11560139._SY75_.jpg|2327777].
Contudo ele é claramente um gênio. A forma como a cultura do Mundo do Caminho é apresentada com as revelações sobre os godspoken, ou a forma como os conceitos da física teórica e a consideração e resolução do desafio da física experimental foram muito boas e criativas. A representação da fé, tanto da católica quando da taoísta também foram criativas e inspiradas.
Mas ainda assim precisava diminuir a metafísica.
3,5/5
gave up, was too bored by it
I'm surprised to say this is the strongest so far in the Ender's series. It's a little more philosophical than the others but in a way that suits what's happening on the page plus it also includes a fantastically realistic anti-heroes journey I didn't expect.
I'm really not sure about the whole young Peter and Val surprise, it felt like it came out of nowhere purely for the purpose of sequels
Considering who wrote this, it's fascinating to see the issues of religious fundamentalism discussed in such detail.
I don't know how to feel about this book. The problems it set up, the conflicts it presented, the questions it raised, the people it introduced...they were all brilliant and fascinating and thoroughly engrossing. Riveting, mind-expanding, so many delicious adjectives. Five-star adjectives, without question. Diverse, real, complex characters that deal with problems every bit as grand.
But then...everything just got tied up with such infuriating neatness. Deus ex machina that couldn't get more blatant if Zeus himself had descended from Olympus and manipulated things to their neat ends. All of the most crucial solutions - in addition to what will surely be the backbone of sequels - quite literally conjured out of nothingness. In fact, one could probably argue that things were tied up quickly and neatly in order to make way for the hastily-introduced seeds of the coming conflict.
I can't give it less than four stars because the …
I don't know how to feel about this book. The problems it set up, the conflicts it presented, the questions it raised, the people it introduced...they were all brilliant and fascinating and thoroughly engrossing. Riveting, mind-expanding, so many delicious adjectives. Five-star adjectives, without question. Diverse, real, complex characters that deal with problems every bit as grand.
But then...everything just got tied up with such infuriating neatness. Deus ex machina that couldn't get more blatant if Zeus himself had descended from Olympus and manipulated things to their neat ends. All of the most crucial solutions - in addition to what will surely be the backbone of sequels - quite literally conjured out of nothingness. In fact, one could probably argue that things were tied up quickly and neatly in order to make way for the hastily-introduced seeds of the coming conflict.
I can't give it less than four stars because the majority of this book was just so strong, and the people you're introduced to, and the added depth to those you already knew, are entirely worth the journey. But the conclusions did little justice to the myriad complexities and richness of the problems that they solved. And that makes me sad. I'll just say that if you find yourself skimming once you hit 450 or 500, and completely giving up around 550...I'm not gonna argue with how you choose to spend your time.
All the same, this book and the people, peoples, and problems it introduced me to will remain with me long after I've forgotten how it ended. I loved this book. I just wish it could have had the conclusion it deserved.
I don't know how to feel about this book. The problems it set up, the conflicts it presented, the questions it raised, the people it introduced...they were all brilliant and fascinating and thoroughly engrossing. Riveting, mind-expanding, so many delicious adjectives. Five-star adjectives, without question. Diverse, real, complex characters that deal with problems every bit as grand.
But then...everything just got tied up with such infuriating neatness. Deus ex machina that couldn't get more blatant if Zeus himself had descended from Olympus and manipulated things to their neat ends. All of the most crucial solutions - in addition to what will surely be the backbone of sequels - quite literally conjured out of nothingness. In fact, one could probably argue that things were tied up quickly and neatly in order to make way for the hastily-introduced seeds of the coming conflict.
I can't give it less than four stars because the …
I don't know how to feel about this book. The problems it set up, the conflicts it presented, the questions it raised, the people it introduced...they were all brilliant and fascinating and thoroughly engrossing. Riveting, mind-expanding, so many delicious adjectives. Five-star adjectives, without question. Diverse, real, complex characters that deal with problems every bit as grand.
But then...everything just got tied up with such infuriating neatness. Deus ex machina that couldn't get more blatant if Zeus himself had descended from Olympus and manipulated things to their neat ends. All of the most crucial solutions - in addition to what will surely be the backbone of sequels - quite literally conjured out of nothingness. In fact, one could probably argue that things were tied up quickly and neatly in order to make way for the hastily-introduced seeds of the coming conflict.
I can't give it less than four stars because the majority of this book was just so strong, and the people you're introduced to, and the added depth to those you already knew, are entirely worth the journey. But the conclusions did little justice to the myriad complexities and richness of the problems that they solved. And that makes me sad. I'll just say that if you find yourself skimming once you hit 450 or 500, and completely giving up around 550...I'm not gonna argue with how you choose to spend your time.
All the same, this book and the people, peoples, and problems it introduced me to will remain with me long after I've forgotten how it ended. I loved this book. I just wish it could have had the conclusion it deserved.
I don't know how to feel about this book. The problems it set up, the conflicts it presented, the questions it raised, the people it introduced...they were all brilliant and fascinating and thoroughly engrossing. Riveting, mind-expanding, so many delicious adjectives. Five-star adjectives, without question. Diverse, real, complex characters that deal with problems every bit as grand.
But then...everything just got tied up with such infuriating neatness. Deus ex machina that couldn't get more blatant if Zeus himself had descended from Olympus and manipulated things to their neat ends. All of the most crucial solutions - in addition to what will surely be the backbone of sequels - quite literally conjured out of nothingness. In fact, one could probably argue that things were tied up quickly and neatly in order to make way for the hastily-introduced seeds of the coming conflict.
I can't give it less than four stars because the …
I don't know how to feel about this book. The problems it set up, the conflicts it presented, the questions it raised, the people it introduced...they were all brilliant and fascinating and thoroughly engrossing. Riveting, mind-expanding, so many delicious adjectives. Five-star adjectives, without question. Diverse, real, complex characters that deal with problems every bit as grand.
But then...everything just got tied up with such infuriating neatness. Deus ex machina that couldn't get more blatant if Zeus himself had descended from Olympus and manipulated things to their neat ends. All of the most crucial solutions - in addition to what will surely be the backbone of sequels - quite literally conjured out of nothingness. In fact, one could probably argue that things were tied up quickly and neatly in order to make way for the hastily-introduced seeds of the coming conflict.
I can't give it less than four stars because the majority of this book was just so strong, and the people you're introduced to, and the added depth to those you already knew, are entirely worth the journey. But the conclusions did little justice to the myriad complexities and richness of the problems that they solved. And that makes me sad. I'll just say that if you find yourself skimming once you hit 450 or 500, and completely giving up around 550...I'm not gonna argue with how you choose to spend your time.
All the same, this book and the people, peoples, and problems it introduced me to will remain with me long after I've forgotten how it ended. I loved this book. I just wish it could have had the conclusion it deserved.
It doesn't really feel as a whole book... more like half of it. But it does ask very deep and interesting questions which is what I enjoy on this saga. The Fleet seems to be moving terribly slow, and lots of things happen before it arrives. Still it is a wonderful adventure and a very enjoyable read.
I enjoyed this much more than the second part (Speaker of the Dead). This one has a lot of conflict, people die, things do not always work out, people make mistakes and bad things happen. I could not stop reading because I was so curious wether they were going to find solutions to any of their problems: the descolada, the Little Doctor, Jane's fate or the fate of Path. There is a lot going on plotwise, but there is one thread around which it is all centered: saving Lusitania and all it's inhabitants.
My favorite moment is towards the end when a solution to one problem Ender imagines two new ones and I am excited to read the next book, starting just about now.
Ender's Game was a really great book but I think it was not originally planned as a series of books. Speaker of the Dead was trying …
I enjoyed this much more than the second part (Speaker of the Dead). This one has a lot of conflict, people die, things do not always work out, people make mistakes and bad things happen. I could not stop reading because I was so curious wether they were going to find solutions to any of their problems: the descolada, the Little Doctor, Jane's fate or the fate of Path. There is a lot going on plotwise, but there is one thread around which it is all centered: saving Lusitania and all it's inhabitants.
My favorite moment is towards the end when a solution to one problem Ender imagines two new ones and I am excited to read the next book, starting just about now.
Ender's Game was a really great book but I think it was not originally planned as a series of books. Speaker of the Dead was trying to bridge that gap into a new world 3000 years after the happenings of the first and came out rather weak in my opinion but this one redeems the series (mostly).
By far the best book in this series. I really enjoy the metaphysical ideas presented in this book.
