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1 star
Se nota que fue un encargo y que no lo tenía originalmente pensado como parte de su trilogía La Fundación
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Published Jan. 14, 1986 by Books On Tape.
Se nota que fue un encargo y que no lo tenía originalmente pensado como parte de su trilogía La Fundación
My main response to having completed this book was, “Good riddance, I’m done with this series.” I suppose I could have stopped at any time, but I’m stubborn, so I insisted on reading all seven books. (Though this was the fifth one written, I read the two subsequently published prequels first.)
Of all seven books, this was my least favorite. It felt like Asimov was just phoning it in to complete his contractual obligation. For one, the previous books had various plotlines that inevitably intersected in clever ways – even if Asimov never mastered the skill of showing not telling. Yet this book only had one plotline from which we never veered, and it frankly got boring. What added to the boredom was that the plot was essentially all about an individual seeking to verify a decision he had already made in a previous book. Four-hundred pages about double-checking your …
My main response to having completed this book was, “Good riddance, I’m done with this series.” I suppose I could have stopped at any time, but I’m stubborn, so I insisted on reading all seven books. (Though this was the fifth one written, I read the two subsequently published prequels first.)
Of all seven books, this was my least favorite. It felt like Asimov was just phoning it in to complete his contractual obligation. For one, the previous books had various plotlines that inevitably intersected in clever ways – even if Asimov never mastered the skill of showing not telling. Yet this book only had one plotline from which we never veered, and it frankly got boring. What added to the boredom was that the plot was essentially all about an individual seeking to verify a decision he had already made in a previous book. Four-hundred pages about double-checking your answer is not the most inspiring of tales.
One upside of the book was a deep dive into a planet called Gaia that seemed to be inspired by Pierre Teilhard de Chardin’s notion of the noosphere, for which I have a soft spot in my heart. The possibility of extrapolating lessons from that form of consciousness did give value to the text. On the other hand, there were the usual drawbacks – Asimov’s sexism, predominantly. In addition, this novel heavily featured intersex characters who were treated with opprobrium, disgust, and misgendering, adding another disturbing layer to Asimov’s embrace of heteropatriarchy.
Overall, I would not recommend this book, nor would I recommend this series except for those interested in it as a historical artifact.
A good read, and apart from the 3 laws for robots, I now realise there was also a 4th law: Zeroth Law is: ‘A robot may not injure humanity or, through inaction, allow humanity to come to harm.’ This automatically means that the First Law must be modified to be: ‘A robot may not injure a human being, or, through inaction, allow a human being to come to harm, except where that would conflict with the Zeroth Law.’ And similar modifications must be made in the Second and Third Laws.” But this book also answered many questions and also revealed a plan that is older than Seldon’s Plan…
A good read, and apart from the 3 laws for robots, I now realise there was also a 4th law:
Zeroth Law is: ‘A robot may not injure humanity or, through inaction, allow humanity to come to harm.’ This automatically means that the First Law must be modified to be: ‘A robot may not injure a human being, or, through inaction, allow a human being to come to harm, except where that would conflict with the Zeroth Law.’ And similar modifications must be made in the Second and Third Laws.”
But this book also answered many questions and also revealed a plan that is older than Seldon’s Plan…
Slow in places, but at the same time hard to put down.
Almost contrived/predictable, or perhaps just inexorable?
3.5 stars.
No doubt the best one of the saga!
This is the fifth volume in order of publication, and continues the story from Foundation's Edge. Trevize made his decision, but is uneasy because he does not know why he made the decision he made. He decided he needs to go looking for more. And his traveling companion, Janov Pelorat, is an historian who is interested in the mythology about a "planet of origin" called Earth, and wants to look for it. So they go off in search of it. As they look at old legends, they start finding very old planets, and it turns out Asimov has merged the Foundation universe with his Robot universe. The planets they find, at least at first, are a couple of the old spacer worlds: Aurora, and Solaria. Eventually they find Earth, but is radioactive. This was first introduced in Pebble in the Sky, then explained in Robots and Empire. …
This is the fifth volume in order of publication, and continues the story from Foundation's Edge. Trevize made his decision, but is uneasy because he does not know why he made the decision he made. He decided he needs to go looking for more. And his traveling companion, Janov Pelorat, is an historian who is interested in the mythology about a "planet of origin" called Earth, and wants to look for it. So they go off in search of it. As they look at old legends, they start finding very old planets, and it turns out Asimov has merged the Foundation universe with his Robot universe. The planets they find, at least at first, are a couple of the old spacer worlds: Aurora, and Solaria. Eventually they find Earth, but is radioactive. This was first introduced in Pebble in the Sky, then explained in Robots and Empire. Then they notice the Moon, which is unusually large, and investigate, where they find R. Daneel Olivaw, who has been manipulating everything for the last 30 millennia. After this Asimov could not think of anywhere to go with this story, so he did a couple of "prequel" books.
I now have this as part of a 7-book set of all of Asimov's Foundation novels in e-book form.
The final instalment!
I'm happy the way things wrapped up, it was good to come full circle. Now that I've finished reading the books in story-temporal order, I can see why there are suggestions to move the two preludes to the end of the story—it would add some suspense and mystery to Seldon that you don't get when you know everything about his work before you even get to Foundation.
All in all, even though I didn't like some of the books in the universe at all, and some only mildly; I really appreciate the scale and complexity of such a future—especially since some of this work was written in the mid 40's.
As for this book itself: it was quite enjoyable in many ways, but also somewhat lacking in others. The amount of groundbreaking discoveries the team continuously made was quite high, but only once was there even the …
The final instalment!
I'm happy the way things wrapped up, it was good to come full circle. Now that I've finished reading the books in story-temporal order, I can see why there are suggestions to move the two preludes to the end of the story—it would add some suspense and mystery to Seldon that you don't get when you know everything about his work before you even get to Foundation.
All in all, even though I didn't like some of the books in the universe at all, and some only mildly; I really appreciate the scale and complexity of such a future—especially since some of this work was written in the mid 40's.
As for this book itself: it was quite enjoyable in many ways, but also somewhat lacking in others. The amount of groundbreaking discoveries the team continuously made was quite high, but only once was there even the thought of sharing such with the Foundation. Trevize may have been an outcast, but Pelorat was a scholar and would be completely vindicated by writing up some of their travels (even excluding some of the embargoes they promised). To me the absence of such deliberations were completely missing. Pelorat should have been more of a driving force than Trevize too—how they switched roles was a bit confusing. On the positive side, the mix of myth and reality was great! Trevise's deliberations, whilst sometimes gratingly combative, were quite fun to try and preempt.
I don't know what to do with myself now that this is complete.
Great end to the series.
Il faudra un jour que je relise et que j'écrive une critique plus complète de ce grand classique de la science-fiction, un roman et une saga que j'avais lu avec énormément de plaisir quand j'étais plus jeune.
Not a great ending to the foundation series. That's all i will say so i won't spoil anything to other readers.
Also the messages passed by the ending is the exact opposite of what i believe.
Foundation and Earth by Isaac Asimov (1987)