Joy101 reviewed Harry Potter and the Deathly Hallows (Harry Potter #7) by J.K. Rowling (Harry Potter, part 7)
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Hardcover, 792 pages
Czech language
Published by Albatros.
"Nelítostný boj dobra se zlem vrcholí! Závěrečný díl potterovské série v novém vydání."
Věrní kamarádi Harry, Ron a Hermiona do posledního ročníku bradavické školy nenastoupí. Musí splnit nelehký úkol, který moudrý ředitel školy Albus Brumbál již nemůže dokončit. Společně se vydávají hledat tajemné viteály, do kterých Pán zla roztříštil svou duši. Zničení viteálů je tak jedinou šancí, jak nad ním zvítězit. Na trojici kamarádů číhají na cestě nebezpečné nástrahy, ale ani v těch nejtemnějších úkrytech neztrácejí podporu svých přátel.
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Quite different in structure from the other six books, this last Harry Potter instalment ties up all threads that need to be tied. This includes, obviously, the final confrontation with Voldemort, but also some less important (though not necessarily less desperately needed) odds and ends.
It's a little long, to be sure, especially during the first endless journey, which takes up almost half the book and then ends quite unspectacularly.
Many people had problems with the resolution, but what should have happened instead? No, the message was inevitable from the beginning, and the method of delivering it is maybe a little too action-centered, but perfectly in tune with everything that has happened before. The only caveat is that Rowling gets rather careless with her characters and sacrifices a huge number of them during the big conflict – and not only the ones who deserved it.
I’m so tired. I’m done. I finished it. I’m done. Now I can put this all to bed and go back to my gay romance novels.
‘I’m sorry,’ he said in a thick voice. ‘I’m sorry I left. I know I was a – a –’
He looked around at the darkness, as if hoping a bad enough word would swoop down upon him and claim him.
‘You’ve sort of made up for it tonight,’ said Harry. ‘Getting the sword. Finishing off the Horcrux. Saving my life.’
‘That makes me sound a lot cooler than I was,’ Ron mumbled.
‘Stuff like that always sounds cooler than it really was,’ said Harry. ‘I’ve been trying to tell you that for years.’
Met diep respect voor de creativiteit, het inlevingsvermogen en het puzzelwerk van Joanne Rowling (1965) heb ik de Harry Potterreeks herlezen. Hoewel [b:Harry Potter and the Half-Blood Prince|28139880|Harry Potter and the Half-Blood Prince (Harry Potter #6)|J.K. Rowling|https://i.gr-assets.com/images/S/compressed.photo.goodreads.com/books/1660910990l/28139880.SY75.jpg|41335427] voor mij in zekere zin al een finale was, blijf ik onder de indruk van de magistrale …
‘I’m sorry,’ he said in a thick voice. ‘I’m sorry I left. I know I was a – a –’
He looked around at the darkness, as if hoping a bad enough word would swoop down upon him and claim him.
‘You’ve sort of made up for it tonight,’ said Harry. ‘Getting the sword. Finishing off the Horcrux. Saving my life.’
‘That makes me sound a lot cooler than I was,’ Ron mumbled.
‘Stuff like that always sounds cooler than it really was,’ said Harry. ‘I’ve been trying to tell you that for years.’
Met diep respect voor de creativiteit, het inlevingsvermogen en het puzzelwerk van Joanne Rowling (1965) heb ik de Harry Potterreeks herlezen. Hoewel [b:Harry Potter and the Half-Blood Prince|28139880|Harry Potter and the Half-Blood Prince (Harry Potter #6)|J.K. Rowling|https://i.gr-assets.com/images/S/compressed.photo.goodreads.com/books/1660910990l/28139880.SY75.jpg|41335427] voor mij in zekere zin al een finale was, blijf ik onder de indruk van de magistrale manier waarop Rowling de delen aaneenrijgt.Het verhaal is grimmiger dan voorheen, getuige ook de hoeveelheid firewhisky die er doorheen gaat. De hoofdpersoon is weliswaar nog altijd onuitstaanbaar, maar personages als Albus Dumbledore, Severus Snape en zelfs Mrs. Weasley (<3) zorgen voor kleur en diepgang. De kant van het Kwaad - Voldemort en Bellatrix Lestrange voorop - is daarentegen te karikaturaal om te overtuigen.Tijdens het lezen kreeg ik sterke associaties met zowel de wereldgeschiedenis als met andere fantasieverhalen. Referenties aan de Tweede Wereldoorlog zijn apert aanwezig: in het vervolgen van mudbloods (‘magiedieven’), de minachting van andere levensvormen, en zelfs nadrukkelijker in de persoon van Gellert Grindelwald. Daarnaast deed Voldemort, zelf half-blood, me denken aan Napoleon Bonaparte, eveneens een buitenstaander die de macht greep en zich liet assimileren. Ten slotte proefde ik in de blik van Griphook op de magische wereld (“wand-carriers”) de spanning tussen kolonisten en inheemse volkeren, al was het maar door het gesteggel om het zwaard van Gryffindor.Met de invloed van een betoverd object op het gemoed van de reisgenoten is Rowling schatplichtig aan [b:The Lord of the Rings|61424113|The Lord of the Rings|J.R.R. Tolkien|https://i.gr-assets.com/images/S/compressed.photo.goodreads.com/books/1657512711l/61424113.SY75.jpg|3462456]. Fred en George hebben bovendien wat weg van Merry en Pippin. Verder dacht ik tijdens het lezen over de jeugdzonden van Albus Dumbledore aan die van Professor X uit de X-menserie, en bij de eenzame queeste van Harry in het bos aan die van Luke Skywalker in Star Wars.Rowlings grootste misstap is de epiloog, die korte metten maakt met de fantasie van de lezer en hopeloos afbreuk doet aan de spectaculaire laatste akte, waarin de schrijver alle registers opentrekt. De volgende keer sla ik het nawoord beslist over.Zo heb ik zeven boeken herlezen omdat ik uiteindelijk zo enthousiast was over [b:Numéro deux|59751131|Numéro deux|David Foenkinos|https://i.gr-assets.com/images/S/compressed.photo.goodreads.com/books/1638600150l/59751131.SX50.jpg|94104575] van David Foenkinos!
Αν ήταν να το βαθμολογήσω (το έκανα), αμέσως αμέσως θα αφαιρέσω πόντους για την μετάφραση που είναι όλο "ανάβλεψε" και "αναδεύτηκε". Μα διάβολε, υπάρχουν κι άλλες λέξεις, τι εκνευριστικό που ήταν να συναντάς συνεχώς και συνεχώς πέντε έξι χαρακτηριστικές...Τα "Χάρρυ Πόττερ" έχουν την ιδιομορφία ότι ως προς τα ονόματα μεταφράστηκαν εξαρχής λάθος, πχ δεν είναι Ουέσλι, είναι Γουίσλυ.
Το έβδομο Χάρρυ Πόττερ είναι το βιβλίο που ξεκλειδώνει τα προηγούμενα: εξηγεί γιατί ο Ντάμπλντορ έκανε ό,τι έκανε, γιατί ο Σνέηπ, γιατί ο Ξέρεις-Ποιος. Ο Χάρρυ Πόττερ πρωταγωνίστησε σε κάτι πολύ μεγαλύτερο από αυτόν. Και στο τέλος, κουρασμένος, σχεδόν παραιτήθηκε. Πήγε να βρει τον Ξέρεις-Ποιον για να θυσιαστεί. Το κεντρικό θέμα του βιβλίου ήταν ο θάνατος, αναμφίβολα. Άγγιξε τους πάντες: φίλους και εχθρούς, συγγενείς κι αγνώστους, δικαίως και αδίκως. Η Ρόουλινγκ όμως έκανε τις διακρίσεις που έπρεπε: μίλησε κυρίως για τη θυσία. Τον θάνατο που ήρθε ή πήγε να έρθει λόγω της …
Αν ήταν να το βαθμολογήσω (το έκανα), αμέσως αμέσως θα αφαιρέσω πόντους για την μετάφραση που είναι όλο "ανάβλεψε" και "αναδεύτηκε". Μα διάβολε, υπάρχουν κι άλλες λέξεις, τι εκνευριστικό που ήταν να συναντάς συνεχώς και συνεχώς πέντε έξι χαρακτηριστικές...Τα "Χάρρυ Πόττερ" έχουν την ιδιομορφία ότι ως προς τα ονόματα μεταφράστηκαν εξαρχής λάθος, πχ δεν είναι Ουέσλι, είναι Γουίσλυ.
Το έβδομο Χάρρυ Πόττερ είναι το βιβλίο που ξεκλειδώνει τα προηγούμενα: εξηγεί γιατί ο Ντάμπλντορ έκανε ό,τι έκανε, γιατί ο Σνέηπ, γιατί ο Ξέρεις-Ποιος. Ο Χάρρυ Πόττερ πρωταγωνίστησε σε κάτι πολύ μεγαλύτερο από αυτόν. Και στο τέλος, κουρασμένος, σχεδόν παραιτήθηκε. Πήγε να βρει τον Ξέρεις-Ποιον για να θυσιαστεί. Το κεντρικό θέμα του βιβλίου ήταν ο θάνατος, αναμφίβολα. Άγγιξε τους πάντες: φίλους και εχθρούς, συγγενείς κι αγνώστους, δικαίως και αδίκως. Η Ρόουλινγκ όμως έκανε τις διακρίσεις που έπρεπε: μίλησε κυρίως για τη θυσία. Τον θάνατο που ήρθε ή πήγε να έρθει λόγω της ανιδιοτέλειας κάποιον πρωταγωνιστών, που ήρθε για να πάνε τα πράγματα μπροστά. Ο Χάρρυ Πόττερ μου θύμισε τον Φρόντο που πήγαινε το δαχτυλίδι στο ηφαίστειο. Δεν είναι απίθανο να εμπνεύστηκε από τον Τόλκιν η Ρόουλινγκ.
Ο Ντάμπλντορ κι ο Σνέηπ έχουν αντίστροφες απεικονίσεις από το πρώτο μέχρι το έβδομο βιβλίο: ο πρώτος, ολοκάθαρος αρχικά, στην πορεία μουτζουρώνεται και ο δεύτερος το αντίστροφο. Ο Σνέηπ είναι και η προσωπικότητα που συγκεντρώνει το περισσότερο μυστήριο. Όλοι οι χαρακτήρες δομήθηκαν καλά. Δεν γνωρίζω αν η Ρόουλινγκ είχε στο μυαλό της το 7ο βιβλίο όταν έγραφε το 1ο, όμως φαίνεται ως συνολική σύλληψη και αυτό είναι ένα σηνείο της μεγάλης επιτυχίας της.
6.5/10
A masterpiece!
My tip for all the rereaders: Read this right after PoA.
How can the author of this magical series in which kindness and love conquer everything be so awfully teansphobic? It casts a shadow over the whole HP series...
El séptimo libro de Harry Potter salió en mi 14º cumpleaños y me pilló en Pensilvania. La peñita hizo unas colas enormes para conseguir uno a las 12 de la noche y me cantaron el cumpleaños feliz. Recuerdo ese día con muchísimo cariño.
Rohesilmse võluri põhisarja seitsmes ja viimane raamat. Viimane aasta Sigatüükas... ei, ei. Asjalood on tundmatuseni muutunud, eelmise raamat lõpp viis Harry mürinal täiskasvanuikka suurte inimeste probleemidega rinda pistma. Mingis mõttes on sellest kahju, mulle tegelikult meeldisid kuus eelmist osa koolilugudega väga, praeguses raamatus on midagi nagu puudu. Kuigi eks viivad ju kõik teed Sigatüükasse. Ning ma olen ka sellest raamatust siin vaimustuses, lihtsalt turvaline kooliaeg on otsa saanud.
See osa mingis mõttes üllatab ja ei üllata ka. On tegu ju siiski fantasy'ga, kus Rowling antud juhul läheb pigem mingis mõttes kindla peale välja, lugu on täis keerdkäike, lõpp on kataklüsmidest tulvil ning kokkuvõttes saab kuri teenitud palga, hea võimutseb. On see nüüd hea või halb, jääb juba lugeja otsustada. Mulle meeldis selline pikk lugu väga, ka lõpplahendus. Sest alati ei peagi olema kõik morn ja pekkis. Harry Potteri kujunemislugu, läbi paksu ja vedela rühkimine ning koos toetajatega lõpplahenduseni jõudmine - …
Rohesilmse võluri põhisarja seitsmes ja viimane raamat. Viimane aasta Sigatüükas... ei, ei. Asjalood on tundmatuseni muutunud, eelmise raamat lõpp viis Harry mürinal täiskasvanuikka suurte inimeste probleemidega rinda pistma. Mingis mõttes on sellest kahju, mulle tegelikult meeldisid kuus eelmist osa koolilugudega väga, praeguses raamatus on midagi nagu puudu. Kuigi eks viivad ju kõik teed Sigatüükasse. Ning ma olen ka sellest raamatust siin vaimustuses, lihtsalt turvaline kooliaeg on otsa saanud.
See osa mingis mõttes üllatab ja ei üllata ka. On tegu ju siiski fantasy'ga, kus Rowling antud juhul läheb pigem mingis mõttes kindla peale välja, lugu on täis keerdkäike, lõpp on kataklüsmidest tulvil ning kokkuvõttes saab kuri teenitud palga, hea võimutseb. On see nüüd hea või halb, jääb juba lugeja otsustada. Mulle meeldis selline pikk lugu väga, ka lõpplahendus. Sest alati ei peagi olema kõik morn ja pekkis. Harry Potteri kujunemislugu, läbi paksu ja vedela rühkimine ning koos toetajatega lõpplahenduseni jõudmine - see oli kokkuvõttes ikka väga äge. See, et lõppu ka natuke suhkruga võõbati ning roosamannat peale puistati - noh, kui meenutada eelnevat kuus koma üheksat raamatut siis natuke võiks ju elu ikka ilus olla ka.
Mis mulle veel silma jäi - läbi ulmeprisma jutustatud lugu puudega inimesest, Albus Dumbledore õest Arianast. Kogu spekter sellest, kui raske on ta lähedastel, kuidas igaüks ei suuda olla toeks, kuidas enda heaolu ning karjääri nimel jäetakse see õnnetu hing teiste "kaela". Väga huvitav, eriti kuna raamatut esimest korda lugedes ma seda tahku ei tajunudki.
Üldse on see raamat selline, mis põimib eelmised raamatud omavahel kokku, lisab paljudesse kohtadesse värvi ning joonistab karakterid märksa eredamaks. Kaabakatel on teinekord inimlikke jooni, säravvalged tegelased pole lähemalt vaadates teps mitte puhtad kutid-mutid. Minu jaoks on äärmiselt muljetavaldav, mille kõik on Rowling kokku kirjutanud, sest tõesti - lõpus võetakse igaltpoolt varasemast niidiotsi kokku, igal detailil on oma oluline roll mängida. Vägisi tekibki tahtmine uuesti üle lugeda, nüüd siis juba kolmandat korda. Sest paljusid stseene näeks nüüd hoopis teise pilguga. Eks mul oli eelmisest lugemisest üht koma teist ikka meeles, aga päris palju oli juba tuhmunud.
Mis veel... võib-olla seda mainin, et koostöö õpilaste ja õpetajate vahel, noorte ja vanade külg-külje kõrval ühise vastasega rinda pistmine - ausõna, ma olen püstivaimustuses. Kogu Harry Potteri lugu on kokkuvõttes ju siiski üks muinasjutt, fantasysaaga mis on pagana hästi kirja pandud ning räägib loo, mis on küll ulmekuues aga tegelikult vägagi realistlik. Vahet pole, kas vaadata Harry Potteri elu kasuvanemate juures, ülikute viha alamklassi suunas, koolielu internaadis, lapse kasvamist nooreks täiskasvanuks. Rowling on sidunud kõik tavalised, igapäevased mured ja rõõmud ilukirjanduslikku vormi ning pannud terve põlvkonna lapsi ning nende vanemaid raamatuid lugema. See on vägitegu, mis minu silmis väärib kõrgeimat tunnustust.
I think the best part of this for me is that I never once heard people refer to it as 'Harry Potter and the Excruciatingly Long Camping Trip' until after the first time I read it, and it was far easier for me to not immediately feel negatively about it going in. I'm pretty sure if I'd heard it called that prior, I would've been a bit set against its structure at the outset. As it stands, the first time I read the book was after the eighth movie (or 7B) came out. In fact, I'd read the entire series after each of the movies because I wanted to see if I'd understand them at all without having read the text.
Unsurprisingly, only two movies held up and were actual functioning stories instead of being Pretty Scenes With Interesting Fights Set in Magic Land (3 to 7B had a rubbish …
I think the best part of this for me is that I never once heard people refer to it as 'Harry Potter and the Excruciatingly Long Camping Trip' until after the first time I read it, and it was far easier for me to not immediately feel negatively about it going in. I'm pretty sure if I'd heard it called that prior, I would've been a bit set against its structure at the outset. As it stands, the first time I read the book was after the eighth movie (or 7B) came out. In fact, I'd read the entire series after each of the movies because I wanted to see if I'd understand them at all without having read the text.
Unsurprisingly, only two movies held up and were actual functioning stories instead of being Pretty Scenes With Interesting Fights Set in Magic Land (3 to 7B had a rubbish narrative for anyone without prior knowledge of the books). I remember spending a ridiculous amount of time asking why something'd happened and not knowing why because the necessary plot was lost in favour of one of the visually superfluous scenes (that are only really necessary in writing).
Anyway, that aside, having had such a negative experience with the movie (which really was the camping trip that wouldn't stop), it made the book that much more enjoyable when you actually found out the purpose of all the time spent in the various forests, of all the events that took place while they were in hiding, of the Hunt for the Horcruxes (which just felt like it poofed out of nowhere into the movies, it seemed), and how there was the pull between the Horcruxes or Hallows.
The internal and external debates between going after something that would, on the surface, weaken himself and his opponent (the Horcruxes) while not ever really seeming to gain power or going after the powerful Hallows was something that really only could've been done in the constant camping, the constant moving, the constant information gathering, etc. The realisation that people still supported Harry (overhearing the people in the woods, the messages of support on his parents' home) and the confidence that it inspired was something that really could only be gained from going into hiding.
And finally, in this one book, we are rid of the major issue for me: The fact that we're not in Hogwarts for much of it, so you don't have to deal with much of the "This is definitely a dangerous place, and I don't understand why people send their kids here."
But there are two things I absolutely am bored by: 1. How certain characters die. (I don't mind that Remus and Tonks died, but it's the way they're exhibited in the narrative as being dead. It just felt like an after-thought to change the next bit.) 2. The inclusion of the '19 years later' chapter, which feels like it totally ruins what the story tried to do. It also makes some characters look ludicrously daft, like naming your child after Snape despite the fact he only swapped sides because the woman he 'loved' died, and he... didn't care if her husband and child died as long as he got her? No, gross. Honestly, the only characters I would've been interested in 19-years later would've been Neville and Luna (who should've had a lot more time devoted to them in the novels, but that's just my preference).
Of course it is happening inside your head, Harry, but why on earth should that mean that it is not real?
Incredible! And only now realize the injustice of scoring this book four stars when it clearly deserves five. My memories of reading this book for the first time were a shadow when I read it now. My thoughts of how long it's taking to make progress, the torture of camping out and not having a plan for the Horcruxes and then everything accelerates to the end.
The concerns with pacing never seem as significant on rereads and now I find the book has an intentional progression. Instead of wondering "what happens next" I think "I can't wait for this next thing".
You are the true master of death, because the true master does not seek to run away from Death. He accepts that he must die, and understand that …
Of course it is happening inside your head, Harry, but why on earth should that mean that it is not real?
Incredible! And only now realize the injustice of scoring this book four stars when it clearly deserves five. My memories of reading this book for the first time were a shadow when I read it now. My thoughts of how long it's taking to make progress, the torture of camping out and not having a plan for the Horcruxes and then everything accelerates to the end.
The concerns with pacing never seem as significant on rereads and now I find the book has an intentional progression. Instead of wondering "what happens next" I think "I can't wait for this next thing".
You are the true master of death, because the true master does not seek to run away from Death. He accepts that he must die, and understand that there are far, far worse things in the living world than dying.
The book is a great read cover to cover and it's still easy to get emotional during The Prince's Tale. It's been a decade since I read the book last and I remember scenes differently because of having watched the Hallows movies multiple times, so it was nice to get some unexpected locations and characters that didn't show up in the film.
It took a decade to reread the series and I'd like to not wait another ten years before I step back in to this world of wizardry and magic.
Thank god this is over, the final book in the Harry Potter series was the worst of the lot, up until this point I was able to read each book without hitting any walls, but this one was full of so much filler that I struggled to the end. I guess they call it a slow burner?
Harry Potter is on the run, he won't let anybody help him, which he says is because he doesn't know who to trust but I think it is because he just doesn't know what he is doing. There are huge chunks of pages where nothing happens, the kids are just siting in a tent....at one point they read another book. The end battle scenes are good, would have been spectacular if Rowling had shown it from different peoples perspectives, but she refused to move away from the focus on Harry, which was a …
Thank god this is over, the final book in the Harry Potter series was the worst of the lot, up until this point I was able to read each book without hitting any walls, but this one was full of so much filler that I struggled to the end. I guess they call it a slow burner?
Harry Potter is on the run, he won't let anybody help him, which he says is because he doesn't know who to trust but I think it is because he just doesn't know what he is doing. There are huge chunks of pages where nothing happens, the kids are just siting in a tent....at one point they read another book. The end battle scenes are good, would have been spectacular if Rowling had shown it from different peoples perspectives, but she refused to move away from the focus on Harry, which was a real shame cos the battle was big enough to have left you out of breath. She does a good job of tying up loose ends, answering all those questions about Dumbles and revealing whether Snape was actually good or evil, to me he'll always be the hero of this series. As for the epilogue??? this was one of the most sickening sweet things I've ever read, almost threw up, I would have loved Rowling to make one last little twist.
For the series as a whole it gets 2 stars from me. I am impressed that Rowling got millions of kids around the world reading some pretty hefty books, what I don't get is the adults and why they love it so much, there are better books out there...obviously not To The Lighthouse cos that is still the worst book ever!
Pretty decent
By breaking the usual formula and tossing our main characters into new situations and settings outside of Hogwarts, Harry Potter’s final novel adventure becomes one of the more satisfying entries and worthy of re-reading.